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                  <text>September 21, 1964

Irene E. Waskow, Ph.D.
Research Psychologist
Psychopharmacology Service Center
National Institute of mental Health
Bethesda, Maryland 20014
Dear Dr. Waskow:
Thank you for your recent letter and I am sorry that I
have not had an opportunity to answer you sooner, but I returned from my helidays within the last two weeks. As you know, the
subject of language measures as an index of behavioral change
with psychotropic drugs has interested me for a number of years.
This summer, prompted in part by some of the discussions held by
the Clinical Committee with Jonathan Cole, I asked a medical stu~
dent and a member of my staff to repeat the T.T.R. measures with
LSD. They were able to complete the examination of seven schizo~
phrenic patients, each of whom have received an oral administration
of 60«7O gamma LSD in our EEG laboratory. Speech samples were
taken prior to drug administration and hourly up to four hours.
The tapes were transcribed in two sections, an unstructured
and a structured portion. In the structured portion, the student
had been encouraged to administer the proverbs test, selected from
the WAIS. A sufficient sample of record was transcribed to provide
a minimum of 16 twenty—five word samples for T.T.R. and time measure—
ments. The technique of T.T.R. followed the description by Jaffe.

far, we have analysed four measures—the T.T.R. and the
time
for a twenty~five word sample and standard deviation
average
for each of these measures.
So

Using non-parametric statistics and visual review of the
data, it appears that the effect of LSD in these subjects was to
increase the mean T.T.R. (increase variability) and increase the
duration of twenty-five word speech samples. The other two meas—

ures were not significantly different from the resting level. These
observations were consistent in the unstructured portion of the
interview only. for the amount of variability and change in the
structured portion was very small.

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September 21, 1954

I have encouraged my associates to examine a few more records
and carry out a few more such interviews so that we might determine

if these observations are consistent in another group of ten subjects.
Also, we are now examining our data for the correlation between the
language measures and the EEG changes.
I an optimistic that if the
measures of vocal dimension are reliable, that-they should change
with drug intake. At the time that we began our interest in speech
measures, Joe Jaffe explored the possibility of using pitch and
volume as measures of affect change. Because of the technical problems or perhaps the drugs did not effect this dimension, we were
unable to observe consistent changes in our study groups. It was
partly because of the failure in the measurement of these dimensions
that we sought for more objective scores and Dr. Jaffe extended his
interest in the T.T.R. and such other formal measures of speech.
With regard to your own study,

I plan to

be in Washington at the forthcoming meeting of the
Committee
Clinical
on October 15—16, 1964 and again for the A.C.N.P.
1964.
on October 23~24,
I would be pleased to have an opportunity
to meet with you and Martin Katz to discuss your work and our observation as well.
Thank you very much

to meeting with you.

for your letter
_

and

I

am

_

Sincerely yours,
Fink,
Director

Max

mf/ls

M.D.

looking forward

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